here is video someone put out that goes deep into c t russell's associated involvement with the freemasons.. there is no question that he drew out a good portion from this organization in creating some of his theological ideas.. being that it was j rutherford that helped to place a pyramid monument at his grave site indicates he could have been associated with the freemasons himself to a certain extent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqfxdvo-54.
a cross and crown laid upon a cross pattee inscribed with "in hoc signo vinces" resting upon downward pointing swords in saltire is often used to represent the knights templar.
What imagery are we talking about? Surely not the cross and crown? Freemasonry borrowed that from Christianity, not the other way around.
How about the pyramid itself with the all seeing eye at the top triangle? The Knights of templar crown and cross?
LOveuni you really have said it well! Thank you for being so honest about this discussion. I feel as you do except that I always felt gay marriage should be held as equal to hetero marriage, for obvious reasons ;) There is no difference when two people love each other more than anything and want to spend their lives together. We were never asking for any special rights above others just equal rights to marriage and everything that comes with that public bond.
I always thought I was born a liberal and will die as such but things are changing. As you so eloquently said "I'm mostly centre-Right because I live in the real world, not in some
blissful utopia. If ideals aren't practicably achievable they should be
reevaluated." We do not live in a utopian world. People are not willing to work for others for nothing. I hate to break it to my friends as well but greed is good when it comes to business. Capitalism is still the best system despite needing some regulations. See that is where I believe in balance. And we cannot expect that uncontrolled immigration from lawless nations will be good for us in any way. We need to help support them in their own lands not force them to integrate into ours. And the west needs to stick their noses in their own business. It is funny that you say the EDL is the equivalent of Trump because the only thing I see in common is both want to keep their nations sovereign and safe. On that point I strongly agree. There are actually several points I strongly agree with that are of the utmost importance to the future survival of this nation as a democratic republic, and yours as well as a democracy/monoarchy.
the exclamation mark in the title above is because i was surprised, as i know that i am a "do not call", but this was what i presume were now two elders,(i have not been told their present status), so they reckon they are equipped to handle me, lol.
it was a friendly chat, as i knew the guys for decades.. during the course of our chat i was able to lead them towards jwfacts.com, i did this by a circuitous route which i will not bore you with, but right at the end i said that bro russell had said no matter what the source of truth was, it was still truth.. i am hoping they do not fear going to the site, i also pointed out that paul grundy says if anything is wrong on his site, e-mail him and he will correct it.. i did get a couple of digs in, said the gb were now like rock stars, one guy said "i don't think they would like you calling them that", so i said " o.k, tv evangelists then".
he had no reply to that barb !.
here is video someone put out that goes deep into c t russell's associated involvement with the freemasons.. there is no question that he drew out a good portion from this organization in creating some of his theological ideas.. being that it was j rutherford that helped to place a pyramid monument at his grave site indicates he could have been associated with the freemasons himself to a certain extent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqfxdvo-54.
a cross and crown laid upon a cross pattee inscribed with "in hoc signo vinces" resting upon downward pointing swords in saltire is often used to represent the knights templar.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=1&referer=http://m.facebook.com.
amnesian.
captive 7/1972 - 2/2001.
i'm crying laughing at some of the hashtags in this article:.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yall-qaeda-vanilla-isis_568a3421e4b06fa68882bb6d.
if this does one thing, it shows up the craziness of the claim that an armed militia "standing up to the government" has any role in a modern democratic society.
Personally, I think they should drone strike the bajeezus out of them.
"Personally, I think they should drone strike the bajeezus out of them."
I am at a loss for words, Simon. But this was really over the top. You don't even know the whole story. Shame on you.
here is video someone put out that goes deep into c t russell's associated involvement with the freemasons.. there is no question that he drew out a good portion from this organization in creating some of his theological ideas.. being that it was j rutherford that helped to place a pyramid monument at his grave site indicates he could have been associated with the freemasons himself to a certain extent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqfxdvo-54.
a cross and crown laid upon a cross pattee inscribed with "in hoc signo vinces" resting upon downward pointing swords in saltire is often used to represent the knights templar.
One of my bethel friends told me two years ago his congregation did a congregation field trip for a few days which included going to Walkill and Paterson and then on out to Penn Dutch country. On their return home trip, a sister suggested stopping off in Pittsburgh since it was not far off their track and had time on their itinerary and visit the grave of CT Russell since they all heard about it but not have seen it. He said afterwards the bus was silent the whole way home as everyone was blown away that his burial tomb was covered in Masonic imagery. A few friends on that trip ended up doing research and fading. Thank Geehoebah for that bus ride!
on the february 2016 study article :.
and on the study article of april 2016 :.
just found that funny....
No. I never really was hoping for billions of people to die at Armageddon because they didn't want to follow a man made cult. I always felt that if there was a god he would want to save everyone, no matter their beliefs.Now that I look back at everything, I was a JW by name only. My god's name is LOVE. Not Jehovah.
